Hi again Wolfy, must agree with you about the quality of the modern Harleys, it is much better than I first imagined. My brother runs an '81 Electraglide, he's had it for about 20 years. It was built during Harley's AMF years, still runs well and its all original but you can see the modern bikes are way better quality. Hope mine lasts as long! I have'nt been in a club since the early '80s and then it was me and a few mates, as I got older and realised that I'd have to work for a living all my riding was commuting - sort of lost the buzz of it - and thats why I made an effort to get my own Harley, its brought that buzz back!