Last winter I asked several dealers close to me if they could cut a deal on a engine remanufacture - nobody budged - not from Harley Davidson, and not for the dealers labor... so no one received any money. I wasn't looking for a deep discount, but I thought that if I was willing to spend money in a tight economy, maybe someone would try a little harder to earn it. I'll probably try again this fall, but my overall impression is that the dealers I spoke to work more on their profit margins than on the bikes they service, and this was confirmed on my visit to one dealer's service department. I'm becoming a mechanic not so much because I want to but because it is so much easier...