For what it's worth, We just went through the, who has the best deal. We stopped in a local dealer [35 miles away] just to look at the new RKC, They didn't have the color we wanted but did quote a price, msrp plus abs, security, and laced smooth wheels. When I ask'd about any insentives they said sure, we could each pick out a t-shirt. Wow, almost jumped right on that one. So I told the guy we're going to buy a new bike from someone and if they wanted to sell one to us they should rethink things. So after meeting the owner we were offered $500.00 in extras, I told them that was better, and would they tell me what dealer had the right color so we could look at it. said they didn't know but for a deposit they would get 1 in for us, we gave them our # and walked out. The wife was alittle up set and started calling dealers here in Wa. and than Oregon. We found portland had the color but not the abs or wheels. We decided on a road trip for the weekend to be able to see the color. The friday we were going the 1'st dealer calls to see if we were going to buy thier bike, so i told them of our trip. Thats when the price started to fall, We got a qoute from 2 dealers in the Portland area, 1 was very good, the other wanted more, with purchase order in hand we went back to local dealer and hagger'd down to an acceptable price, In the end we bought an 09 with abs, laced wheels and security for less than when we bought our 03, and of couse I shopped all over for the best price than also. Sooooo long story short, get a couple of quotes, this time of year, middle to last part of the last month of 08, the dealer will come down, if they don't, than look up American Motorcycle H-D in portland, they went down to 18,000 for the bike we wanted. there is plenty of room in the price, Good luck, ride safe