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smitty901 said:
There are many that would argue the SERT is not that good.
I see no need for anything more aggressive for street use than a TFI.
Now I have been around long enough to know many do things to street bikes that make no sense just because they can. I myself have many times.
For the ride that is shooting for the limits the PC111 can be a fine tool. Many would say better than the SERT .
The only reason I would even run a TFI would be to get the most out of a stage1. Other wise I would just leave it alone.
On my 07 Thats what I have done is leave the bike alone. I have been playing with a set of XIED's just to see how the stack up.
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Some good points in there Smitty, however here's how the some of different units stack up that you mentioned.

TTS...top of the line, overkill IMO on a street bike
SERT... best until the TTS came out, same as above.
Power commander... good for the engine builders but over billed for what it is.(piggyback unit)
TFI...good for a street ridden bike that can be installed and tuned with minimal know how. (piggyback unit)

Then there are a host of others that fall in the cracks between the above.
 
Agree that the TFI would be a better choice than the IED's

What some don't realize is that the fuel maps in the stock bikes are lean on the bottom end and a bit rich on the top end.
When you add the IED's which are a constant at all throttle settings, You end up correcting the bottom end and over richening the top end because they are not adjustable.

I would have to put the IED at the bottom of the list above.
 
glider said:
Agree that the TFI would be a better choice than the IED's

What some don't realize is that the fuel maps in the stock bikes are lean on the bottom end and a bit rich on the top end.
When you add the IED's which are a constant at all throttle settings, You end up correcting the bottom end and over richening the top end because they are not adjustable.

I would have to put the IED at the bottom of the list above.
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your advice is not totally falling on deaf ears (although my wife accuses me of that) I listened and went with the TFI which by the way I haven't installed yet.See what you have to look forward to!:D
 
smitty901 said:
...I have also found everyone I have talked to that installed a TFI never switched but I have seen a few switch to TFI from others units...
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While we have never talked, I am one that started with the Xied's then tried the TFI. But then I switched to the TTS.

Yes, the TFI worked "OK" but that was not enough for me even though I run a stock '08 TC96. The TFI is simply a fuel adding device.

I found, after becoming somewhat more educated with the workings of the Delphi system, that the more full-featured tuners could produce results closer to what my bike needed.

So now you know of at least one owner that has switched to another tuner.

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