My first Harley was '04 Heritage Softail which I had bored and stroked out before I even rode it once. My new '08 Road King Classic never made it out of the store as "stock" either. My wife heard the sound of a stock '08, looked and me and said, "It's too quiet!" So it got sweet looking dual straight pipes, Harley race controller and stage 1 air filter. The dealer already had the download for that configuration so it was only a $50 charge for the downloading. Now that it is broken in, I may eventually get a dyno run on it just to see where it is and to see if it needs custom firmware. The sales guy told me that only 5% of Harley's stay stock. The sound of the '08 stock pipes is certainly not a true Harley sound.