I have my mind made up on an 883. It will be used for the 30 mile work commute and some weekend riding in the country with friends. I don't need a bigger bike as I have a Corvette for long trips. Within 20 miles of home there are two almost identical bikes for sale. Both are 2005, the mileage is within 700 miles of each other (one has 3.3K and one 4K miles), both the same color, and both the same price. One has a sundowner seat, large passenger backrest with large luggage rack, security system, extra chrome, mid controls, highway pegs, Python mufflers with screaming eagle stage one kit installed by dealer, and the small 3.2 gal. tank. This bike is being sold for health reasons with the woman who rode it. I was told the seat and backrest cost $700 yet I have seen the seat alone for $250. I have no idea what the mufflers and stage one kit would cost if dealer installed, nor how much extra was paid for the chrome. The second bike has a smaller luggage rack with smaller back rest, the standard seat, Cycle Shack mufflers with jet kit, 4.3 gal. tank, forward controls, and clip-on windshield. This one is being sold because he bought a bigger bike and his wife will not let him keep two. This XL883C is currently not tagged. I hope to see and ride the bikes this weekend but it is a toss-up right now. I like the bigger tank, mid controls, and windshield on the XL883C. But I like the sundowner seat with large backrest for the passenger, larger luggage rack, and extra chrome. Is there anything else I can look for that would make one a better deal then the other? What would have been the difference in original price between the two models? What does it cost to install forward controls if I buy the bike without them?