I wasn't unhappy with the stock seat but decided to give the Sundowner a try. I haven't put that many miles on it yet but I am happy with the install. I cannot tell if it puts me slightly more forward. It might but I think it is really the tiny bit of back support it adds over the stock seat. I believe I was sort of pushing myself up onto the passenger part on the stock seat and the Sundowner has more rise to the passenger part so you cannot really move back at least not easily. I also like the smooth texture and the fact that the seat doesn't rock side to side. My stock seat seemed to move some on the front mount but this one is rock solid. The seat is bigger but to me looks fine on the bike. I haven't done any two up yet but I'm sure the passenger comfort will be much improved.